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		<title>Math Class Antics Pt. II</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<a href="http://www.chippedpolish.com/2007/math-class-antics-pt-ii/" title="Math Class Antics Pt. II"></a>I had a really bad night at school tonight. Not only are we trying to cram the last couple of chapters in before the end of semester (we&#8217;re so behind) but I was having an episode. On top of that &#8230;<p class="read-more"><a href="http://www.chippedpolish.com/2007/math-class-antics-pt-ii/">Read more &#187;</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<a href="http://www.chippedpolish.com/2007/math-class-antics-pt-ii/" title="Math Class Antics Pt. II"></a><p>I had a really bad night at school tonight. Not only are we trying to cram the last couple of chapters in before the end of semester (we&#8217;re so behind) but I was having an episode. On top of <em>that</em> it seems that <a href="http://www.chippedpolish.com/2007/math-was-good/">the conversation</a> I had with Prof a couple of weeks back made it to the ears of <a href="http://www.chippedpolish.com/2007/college-math-chatter/">the chatterbox crew</a>.</p>
<p>Toward the end of class, Prof was handing out teacher performance evaluation papers. When he was giving the directions on how to fill them out properly he mentioned that there were a couple of things he&#8217;d like to do differently in class. One of those &#8220;women&#8221; (heh) yelled that he should separate them. And another said &#8220;Yeah, because someone can&#8217;t <em>concentrate</em>.&#8221; *giggle giggle laugh snort*</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not an idiot. I looked at her and said &#8220;That would be <em>me</em>, wouldn&#8217;t it?&#8221; As I&#8217;m not really the one to back down from that kind of obvious attempt at shaming me, I stared at her until she looked away. Because that was said <em>prior</em> to the teacher evaluation form being filled out by me, I made sure to mention that the professor showed no respect for the rest of the students because of that nonsense. I also noted that I&#8217;d had a private conversation with him and the information I&#8217;d shared with him was somehow passed on to a large portion of the class. I was <em>livid</em> to say the least. Not that those &#8220;women&#8221; thought it would be funny to try to make a scene, but that they found out about my complaint- and who did the complaining &#8211; at <em>all</em>. How completely unprofessional!</p>
<p>On top of that, he and another math instructor were discussing their pay rates and other students in front of our class. WTF? She (the other instructor) doesn&#8217;t care much for a particular group of students in her class and she was making that very, very clear. I&#8217;m pretty sure she made their work extra hard, but I could have misinterpreted that part. Still, to discuss that in front of students? What were these two smoking?</p>
<p>Unfortunately, this particular professor won&#8217;t be teaching any classes next semester. If he were going to do that I would make an appointment with the Assistant Dean to discuss this. As it is I don&#8217;t see the point. It&#8217;s almost the end of semester and I&#8217;ll be out of that damned class for good after that. Since there are only two options for the next math class, I&#8217;m sure I won&#8217;t be seeing that particular group again. I&#8217;ve decided to take the class of a more professional, and thusly more difficult, professor. I&#8217;m pretty sure that if a group of people behave in a way that disrupts the rest of the class this guy&#8217;s going to put an end to it. Those &#8220;women&#8221; won&#8217;t want to take a class where they&#8217;ll actually have to act like adults. OH NOES!</p>
<p>This is actually the first University class that I&#8217;ve had that the professor hasn&#8217;t had complete control of the class. Every other class that I&#8217;ve taken (and I&#8217;m not counting people sleeping in Intro to Web Tech. That&#8217;s just funny.) there has been a group that tested the limits and has been disbanded. I&#8217;m pretty sure one of the &#8220;women&#8221; from math tried that in my Psych class and Dr. Whatshisname made it very clear that if this group wanted to chit-chat he would be more than glad to give them an &#8220;F&#8221; for the semester and send them on their way. Put an end to <em>that</em> crap right now. I certainly wish that my math prof had acted in the same manner.</p>
<p>If he had I wouldn&#8217;t be sticking pins in this voodoo doll. Wonder if his butt hurts yet. Hmmm&#8230;</p>
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		<title>College Math Chatter</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 16:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<a href="http://www.chippedpolish.com/2007/college-math-chatter/" title="College Math Chatter"></a>I had it up to my eyeballs in Math class yesterday. Living with this illness and dealing with the fog is bad enough. But when I sit in class, in the front of the room, and can&#8217;t hear the professor &#8230;<p class="read-more"><a href="http://www.chippedpolish.com/2007/college-math-chatter/">Read more &#187;</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<a href="http://www.chippedpolish.com/2007/college-math-chatter/" title="College Math Chatter"></a><p>I had it up to my eyeballs in Math class yesterday. Living with this illness and dealing with the fog is bad enough. But when I sit in class, in the front of the room, and can&#8217;t hear the professor because of conversations on the other side of the room&#8230; Well, that was it.</p>
<p>There is a group of women who sit on the far side of the room. Every Monday and Wednesday night they converse among themselves as if Math class isn&#8217;t happening around them. The professor sometimes raises his voice and sometimes gives them looks, but he <em>never</em> asks them to quiet down. It was especially bad last night- at least for me. I was foggy and was having trouble focusing because of the chatter. At one point one of the women actually stood up to illustrate a point she was making to the other women. It was unbelievably disrespectful, not only to the professor but to those of us who were paying $300 per credit hour to attend the class.</p>
<p>After class I waited for everyone to leave. Then I spoke with the professor. I explained to him my condition and why it&#8217;s difficult for me to concentrate on the lesson when there&#8217;s so much noise coming from the other side of the class. He seemed to understand and said we could work out a hand signal when it was getting too loud over there. That miffed me a little. I told him that I didn&#8217;t want special treatment for my condition, just some consideration for someone paying to attend the class. I also told him that other people felt the same about what was going on over there. That was a little white lie as I have no idea if others get just as annoyed, but it did help my cause. We talked for about half an hour and he agreed to control the class a little better. I&#8217;m satisfied with that. I just want to <em>learn</em>. That&#8217;s why I&#8217;m there, afterall.</p>
<p>The funny thing about these women is they&#8217;ll chatter all through a discussion and then ask redundant questions when they realize where we&#8217;re at. After the prof goes through an equation, explains what he&#8217;s doing, and gets the answer, one of the women will pipe up &#8220;So, how&#8217;d you get that answer?&#8221; Lovely. Just <em>lovely</em>. The man is too nice to say &#8220;You&#8217;d know if you shut your trap and paid attention&#8221; so he goes through the whole thing again. Which has put us 3 chapters behind. What a pain.</p>
<p>My first semester I took Intro to Business and there was a similar situation the first day of that class. A group of younger people were sitting in the back talking among themselves, oblivious to the lecture. That prof stopped the lecture, walked to the back of the room and said &#8220;I would love to hold up the rest of the class for your benefit, but they&#8217;ve paid money to be here. If you can&#8217;t quiet down, I suggest you withdrawl from the course, because the next time you interrupt you&#8217;re losing class points.&#8221; And <em>that</em> was the end of <em>that</em>. My psych professor, too, makes sure that the class stays focused and respectful. He simply asks &#8220;Can you hear me back there?&#8221; when someone starts talking too loud. I really like that approach.</p>
<p>Hopefully my math professor will show some spine next week. I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ll be the class pariah for taking away all the fun. I don&#8217;t care though. Class time is not the time to be talking about idiot husbands and barfing dogs. I don&#8217;t think they should even be in that class if they can&#8217;t take it seriously. And I really hate to think what they&#8217;ll be like when they finally do get their nursing degrees.</p>
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